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Asking About Atlantic?? Research Project
by Rangerbred Researcher, Sherry Byrd

And for those like me who do not know anything about Atlantic, this piece might be titled Draft Taint, just to give you an idea of the content. ~AT

The original basis of researching the Claude Thompson Appaloosa program comes from the statements from an early CRHA/ApHC breeder that Thompson had gotten stock from the Ruby Rangerbred program. Research to date has not been able to prove any such connections, although there are certainly some ÔpossibilitiesÕ still out there. One has to consider that unregistered horses changing ownership often got their names changed as well- very rarely is that ever recorded. And foals sold in utero can be just as ÔlostÕ. There are some similarities in names between the Thompson and the Ruby programs. There is the more definitive fact that photos of early Thompson stock and Ruby stock show almost mirror images and similarity. In an attempt to gain more information, I corresponded with Faye Thompson in 1994 and asked about possible Rangerbred horses in her fatherÕs program. Faye talked about her fatherÕs program(s), in that he was an Arabian breeder (being one of the very first in Oregon) before being an Appaloosa breeder. After becoming interested in Òspotted horsesÓ, he used his Arabian blood to Òdevelop and improve the conformation and adaptability of his riding horsesÓ. Thompson goes on to recommend Lady WentworthÕs book, The Authentic Arabian Horse and His Descendants, as a Òmasterful study of the American color breedsÓ (including the Colorado Ranger). After thanking me for Ômy interest and supportÕ, that was pretty much the extent of the letter. At no time did she ever make an attempt to answer my question about Rangerbreds in the Thompson program. Like a true politician, she made no confirmation, yet she made no denial Ð simply steering her letter content away from the subject. This contact answered no questions, and caused more questions to be formedÉ.


1) Why is Thompson's draft horse program and connections not talked about?

NOTE: ThompsonÕs first registered Appaloosa foal by Ferras was Sheila F6, foaled in 1935. ThompsonÕs first registered Arabian foal by Ferras was Baal AHR 226, foaled 1942. Interesting enough, Baal is also the first registered Arabian horse the registry lists as being Òonce ownedÓ by Thompson. This raises more questions as this does not agree with FayeÕs timeline. Faye herself, is not listed as having owned a registered Arabian until 1950.

2) Why is Ferras not listed as being owned by Claude Thompson?

3) If Claude Thompson was one of the very first Arabian breeders in Oregon, why does he have registered Appaloosa foals by Ferras before he had registered Arabian foals by Ferras?

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Chief Spokane Garry

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Waneta F-156

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As stated, Claude Thompson, called ÒMister AppaloosaÓ, was known as the breeder that worked to save the breed, by many within the ApHC throughout the years. He is often claimed to be a noted Appaloosa breeder, whose program started in the late 1920s in the areas of Monkland and Moro, Oregon. Yet, Thompson was as well known as an Arabian breeder in the Arabian realm, and is recorded to have bred 49 registered Arabians (28 sired by Ferras #922 between 1942 and 1955). Some of his Arabians and their bloodlines were in fact used in his Appaloosa program. His daughter Faye was also active in the Arabian breeding program, and was elected as the Secretary of the Arabian Horse Breeders Association of Oregon in December 1954. Faye, who stood and showed the Ferras Arabian son Feragon AHR 12601, is said to be the daughter (other one was Claudia) that remained breeding Appaloosas. Faye also owned the Ferras Arabian daughter Mayrene, and bred and/or owned the Ferras-line horses- stallion Bingazi AHR 36949, mare Binniyat AHR 20403, mare Sarabin AHR 20402, mare Carabiyat AHR 6232, mare Raballene AHR 36486, mare Allarene AHR 6231, and mare Phaedra AHR 26422.

Some of his Arabian X Appaloosa production were registered as half-Arabians and not as Appaloosas, including Rosary (dam of Waneta F-156 and Chief Spokane Garry F-447), Jinx Freya, Sarrita, Flaxie Ferras (dam of FlaxAbu ApHC T-455), and Ferrita. One might assume some of those horses were solid colored and therefore could not be registered as Appaloosas at the time. Although the horse Technicolor F-476 (Ferras AHC 922 X PainterÕs Marvel F-4), registered with the ApHC, was also registered as a Half-Arab IAHA A-4338 [Pat Mefferd research]. Royal Jester T47731 (sire of Hi-Falutin T96938 and S.S.R. April T96940), traces to Ferras through his Arabian sire Royal Flush AHCR 19337. Even the famous foundation stallion Red Eagle F-209 was shown in Arabian shows, winning the ÔHalf-Arab Colored Stallions 3YO/over ClassÕ, at the (6-1951) 5th Annual Arab Show in Portland, Oregon. In advertisements for the Appaloosa stallion Dee Lux T54127, such as appears in the 11-1967 Appaloosa News, the pedigree shows a mare named ÒKitty 2Ó, sired by Ferras AHC, out of MarvelÕs Angel F4, but with the registration number MHC 713. Various researchers believe this is a typo, and that ÒKitty 2Ó may be a registered Half-Arabian (HAHC or AHC), and not Morgan (MHC) as shown.


This brings us to the W.K. Kellogg bred Ferras AHC #922, the chestnut Arabian stallion that Thompson used to ÔsaveÕ the Appaloosa. It is known that Thompson, in fact, traded a pair of Percheron mares for the young (weanling) Arabian colt. The hype about Ferras AHC 922, promoted by the ApHC through the decades, made it seem that the Arabian stallion was something special or unique, of almost rare breeding. This is far from correct. The bloodlines making up Ferras, sire being *Ferdin AHC 613 (Nureddin AHC 602 X Ferda AHC 596) and dam being *Rasima AHC 606 (Daoud AHC 363 X Rose of Hind 413 GSB), were found quite often in the Arabian realm. Ferdin in fact sired 49 registered purebred Arabian foals, while Rasima produced 12 (2 foals are actually double registered in an international and the US registry *Rasima was exported to El Salvadore after producing 8 foals in the U.S.. In fact, Ferras, foaled 1932, had three full siblingsÑFerdas AHC 841 (1931), Radin AHC 986 (1933), and Abdul AHC 1023 (1934).

The bloodline of Ferras can also be found in the PartBred Arabian Registry, Pinto division, through his son Redlite AHC 6739, who sired the pinto part-bred Arab mare Redlites Nika P3186 [photo in A World of Pinto Horses, page 36], who went on to produce foals for the High Hopes Ara-Pinto program, including Badika, HH Sabika El Mahdi, Ruika El Hakim, and T Asatika.

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Again, the constant promotion about Thompson's effort to rebuild the Appaloosa breed with the use of Arabian blood, unfairly denied recognition to other early Appaloosa breeders who also used Arabians, by making it seem that Thompson was the only breeder to use the Arabian. Early Appaloosa breeder, Lloyd Silva, of Grants Pass, Oregon, was in fact listed as one of the Top U.S. Arabian breeders, having bred/owned 383 registered (Arabians Arabian Horse Statistics 1-29-2004). Silva used the stallions Aaronek AHC 2249 (shared FerrasÕ bloodlines) and Utez AHC 10185. Silva had a large Arabian program, running ads in the Bit and Spur, The Western Horseman, The Arabian Horse News and the Arabian Horse World magazines from the 1940s into the late 1960s. Silva was the breeder of the noted Arabian stallion Errabi #5473 (grandson of *Ferdin- sire of Ferras). Errabi sired 29 registered purebred Arabians, and his son Bruk-Abi would go on to sire 55 purebred Arabians.


Another early Appaloosa breeder, Bert Grieb, of Hatton, Washington, was also on the same Top U.S. Breeders List with 152 registered Arabians. Grieb used the stallions Mahabba AHC 1296 (shared bloodlines with Ferras), Surabia AHC 2610, and Faryn AHC 3806/CAHR 875 (traced to Ferda-- FerrasÕ paternal granddam). He also used the mare *Balis AHC 2205, who also had some of FerrasÕ bloodlines. Grieb is the breeder of the Appaloosas- Blitz F-1251, Dash F-860, Maize F-1643 (sired by Mahabba AHC) and Red Cedar F-755 (sired by Mahabba AHC).


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Lester Riley of Pomeroy, Washington, bred early Appaloosas and used Arabian stallions. Riley bred the Appaloosas- Riley F-564, RileyÕs Knobby -NR-, Topper F-400, RileyÕs Purple Doll F-3156, RileyÕs May F-464, El Deabloo F-3157, Ghawi II F-739, and La Vender III F-1321. RileyÕs Purple Doll F-3156 was sired by Jedriss AHC 3664, a U.S. Remount stallion, who shared bloodlines with Ferras. La Vender III F-1321 and Ghawi II F-739 were sired by Ghawi AHC 743, who also shared bloodlines with Ferras.


Thompson was also a proven draft horse breeder and/or owner, a fact that has been totally avoided for the most part. As noted previously in personal correspondence with daughter Faye, she claimed that her father was one of the first Arabian breeders in Oregon, before he started breeding Appaloosas, but said nothing of his draft horse interest. Yet in the Thorson article, ÒClaude Thompson: Appaloosa ForefatherÓ, Faye states that ThompsonÕs Òfirst breeding interestÓ was Percherons. He served as the Secretary of the Belgian Horse Association of Monkland, Oregon (Sherman County) in 1912 and 1913, which stood the Belgian stallion Lancier 4122 USA (52268). He is recorded to have owned and/or stood the following:

1) Agent, (st) [Shire #10566 USA/ (26874)] foaled 1907 (imported 1909 by A.C. Ruby and Co.); Sire: Blythwood Harold (14592); Dam: Ada (58920); co-ownership 1913 with Hansen and Belshe in Moro, ORE)
2) Duncan, (st) [Belgian #5122 USA (48782 Brussels); imported 7-28-1910 by A.C. Ruby and Co., Portland, ORE

ThompsonÕs favorite draft breed was the Percheron, which he bred and/or owned several of (partial list):

1) Goldie (m) 128582 USA, foaled 1916; Sire: Amiral US#128581 (46572); Dam: Meerelle (aka Moerelle) US#61824
2) Fashion (m) 138635 USA, foaled 1917; Sire: Amiral US#128581 (46572); Dam: Meerelle (aka Moerelle) US#61824
3) Brilliant (st) 149220 USA, foaled 1918; Sire: Sonnet 94912 USA; Dam: Isabell 73061 USA
4) Annette (aka Aanette) (m) 149221 USA, foaled 1918; Sire: Sire: Sonnet 94912 USA; Dam: Meerelle (aka Moerelle) US#61824
5) Atlantic (st) 165399 USA [REMEMBER THIS HORSE ]
6) Rosalee (m) 169824, foaled 1921; Sire: Casino 106735; Dam: Goldie 128582
7) Casino II (st) 169825, foaled 1921; Sire: Casino 106735; Dam: Moerelle 61824
8) Isabelle (m) 178135, foaled 1922; Sire: Brilliant 149220; Dam: Lady Grace 111051
9) Maybelle (m) 178136, foaled 1922; Sire: Brilliant 149220; Dam: Fayette 160022
10) Brunette (m) 178137, foaled 1922; Sire: Brilliant 149220; Goldie 128582
11) Reliant (st) 184354, foaled 1923; Sire: Brilliant 149220; Dam: Lady Grace 111051
12) Sylvia (m) 184356, foaled 1923; Sire: Brilliant 149220; Dam: Moerelle 61824


Also in ThompsonÕs Appaloosa program in the early years were many other breed/types/colors, that Appaloosa enthusiasts prefer to keep quiet about Ð Coach type, Standardbred (pacer), unknowns, pintos, creams, palominos, overos, draft types, and others Ð very much what every other pre-registry and early Appaloosa breeder started with. A description of JuneÕs mare (pre-registry), dam of Babe F-1, is shown on the original application made by Thompson as Òbrown, white hind legs and bellyÓÑtypes of white markings found in the Walking Horse or Clydesdale breeds. It has not actually been proven that Thompson even had an Appaloosa mare in his beginning program. Pictures of ThompsonÕs early mares and foals show misplaced white, high white, heavy manes and tails, ÔdraftyÕ appearances, bald faces, and other traits frowned upon in later years. His Appaloosa genetic basis seems to have come only from the stallion Old Painter (aka Silver), whose daughters and son later formed the core of ThompsonÕs Appaloosa program, with the Arabian stallion Ferras AHC #922. Old PainterÕs pedigree has accepted as being sired by a bay Standardbred/Thoroughbred stallion, out of an Ôold white mareÕ.

ThompsonÕs version of Old PainterÕs pedigree (see below- Pedigree for MarvelÕs Angel F-4), says that PainterÕs dam was an Appaloosa. Another version states that PainterÕs dam was in fact an Appaloosa, probably sired by a half-bred Percheron stallion, and was bred to a half-Thoroughbred to produce Òa perfect AppaloosaÓ [Horses and Heroes]. Is it a coincidence that a fancier and breeder of Percherons would just happen to find a Appaloosa colored horse that was part Percheron for his fledgling breeding program?


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According to the Annual Report of the Stallion Registration Board of Oregon (1914), Thompson either owned and/or stood the Belgian stallion Duncan 5122 USA (48782), a crossbred stallion named Lanco (breeding not given), and what the Stallion Registration Board considered to be a ÒmongrelÓ horse named Arabian Boy. According to research by Pat Mefferd, Arabian Boy was a bay and white pinto, sired by a horse named Tommy, out of a mare named Trixie {Is this the same Trixie that is the dam of Lady in MarvelÕs AngelÕs pedigree???}. Arabian Boy would sire a mare named Cheyenne, who would produce White Cloud F-112. Model F-16, another Thompson bred horse has Cheyenne listed as his dam too. CheyenneÕs dam is said to be Bay K (Tommy X Queen), again as per research by Pat Mefferd.

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Thompson also used a stallion named Sunshine Sonny Boy (NR), foaled circa 1930. This horse was described as cream/white flakes over rump. His sire is not known. His dam was called Blondy, sired by the ÒMurray HorseÓ, out of Old Buck. [Pat Mefferd research] Sunshine Sonny Boy sired the registered Appaloosa mare, Golden Girlie, F-5 who was out of Snowflake F-2 by Old Painter. This mare is described and pictured in the August 1965 [page 52] Appaloosa News.


Now to the subject of this articleÉ. ATLANTIC, said to be ÒTBÓ stallion, appears to be a mystery horse. The mystery of this stallion revolves around the infamous Appaloosa breeder and proclaimed breed savior, Claude Thompson.

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In correspondence from the late John L. Baker, he provides a handwritten copy of what he states was the original ApHC application for MarvelÕs Angel (to be registered F-4)[foaled 1932], filled in by Claude Thompson, that he (Baker) had indeed seen and copied from the ApHC archives.
Sire: Young Painter
SireÕs sire: Old Painter [by bay Thoroughbred/Standardbred out of white Appaloosa mare]
SireÕs dam: Dusty Belle (black Ðrodeo mare)
Dam: Lady Grey
DamÕs sire: Atlantic (TB) [by Casino, out of Lady Grace]
DamÕs dam: Trixie [by Prince Undine (by Undine), out of Nell (out of Old Nell)

NOTE: I have also seen pedigrees for Marvel's Angel F-4 that list her dam as Ò ÔLadyÕ grey horse, or ÔLadyÕ (grey) or just ÔLadyÕ.Ó

John Baker opined that the greying gene in ThompsonÕs program did not come from Old Painter, but came from Lady Grey and her sire Atlantic, also said to be grey. Baker may have been correct that the greying gene came from Atlantic and Lady/Lady Grey/Lady (grey), but not correct in that they were TBs. But given the varying descriptions of Old Painter throughout the years, he too carried the greying gene from his ancestry.


AnywayÉ the problem arises that it seems that the grey TB stallion Atlantic does not appear to have existed. No foaling date has been found for this grey ÔTBÕ stallion. Neither Casino (foaled 1881) nor Lady Grace (foaled 1881), is recorded to have had a grey colt named Atlantic.

There were in fact two TB mares named Lady Grace. The one recorded to have been foaled in 1881 (sired by The Duke, out of Noyau) was a bay, in Great Britain, where she has recorded foals. The other one, foaled in 1882 (sired by Romney, out of Grace Darling), was in fact in the United States.

There was also more than one TB stallion called Atlantic Ð

AndÉ. Going back to ÒRememberÓ in the list of ThompsonÕs PercheronsÉ.. now we have the Percheron stallion ATLANTIC, stood by and probably owned by Claude Thompson. And the Percheron mare Lady Grace. And the Percheron stallion Casino. ALL definitely NOT TB horses, unless you want to go by the old longstanding researcherÕs joke that ÒTB stands for Ôtoo bigÕ because of draft breeding, and not for Thoroughbred.

An afterthought: There is one other plausible explanation as to the "TB" designation on Thompson's original pedigree, pertaining to Casino and Lady Gray-- "TB" may have been used to note that said horses were "thoroughbreds", meaning they were pedigreed and registered-- i.e. purebreds. Just didn't specify what breed they were "thoroughbreds" of, for obvious reasons.


Ironically, in an article by Thompson titled ÒFirst Appaloosa?Ó, about a leopard spotted horse called Nibs, purchased in the 1880s by Abram Vosburg, northwest of the Sac and Fox Indian Reservation (Iowa), Thompson says that the more ÒI study the Appaloosa horse the more I am convinced he is rich in Arabian blood notwithstanding the fact that some Appaloosas show draft characteristics.Ó Thompson goes on to say that ÒDraft blood was infused by early settlers and missionaries who would make work horses out of the once proud war horses of the IndiansÓ. In the article, Thompson also talks about an Appaloosa owned by his uncle in the 1890s, saying his dam was Òan old red roan Appaloosa mare that his grandfather picked up from the Indians some place in route across the plains almost a hundred years ago.Ó Thompson goes on to describe his uncleÕs horse Dude, as Òa beautiful white horse with black spots on his rump and showed definite signs of Arabian blood although his sire was a grade Percheron stallion.Ó Does anyone find it odd that ThompsonÕs first Appaloosa stallion sounds just like the horse of his uncle, including Percheron breeding? Also note that the leopard spotted stallion Nibs and the red roan mare obtained by ThompsonÕs grandfather both came from the Midwest, and NOT the Pacific Northwest.

BUTÉ in Lee RylandÕs article, ÒMister AppaloosaÓ, Thompson talks about his first Appaloosa back in 1894, a white with black spots on his rump, that Thompson named Dude. Thompson also describes Painter (aka Old Painter) as being Òleopard-spotted from his withers to his hindquartersÓ. No available pictures of Old Painter has ever shown him to look like that. In the McPherson article, ÒTrail of Old PainterÓ, he is described as being white with Ò a lot of small spots around his legs and noseÓ, with no body spots, in later years.

Adding to the mix of things, research by Pat Mefferd, printed in the Sundance 500 Newsletter, the May/June and July/August 2008 issues, in the article ÒIn Search of the Truth-Old Painter (Parts 1A and 1B)Ó, it is reported that Young PainterÕs dam, Dusty Bell (aka Dusty Belle) is sired by a French Coach stallion.

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The ApHC Stud Book lists both MarvelÕs Angel F-4 (foaled 1932) and Miracle Man F-17 (foaled 1931) as being out of a mare called Lady. Both are sired by Young Painter. Since the pedigree provided by Thompson for MarvelÕs Angel F-4 details the ancestry of the dam Lady, one would have to consider that Miracle Man F-17 has the same dam, as I have not seen the original application pedigree for Miracle Man.


As to the horse UNDINE in MarvelÕs AngelÕs pedigree, that is where I have been researching for the draft connection for quite some time, because I believed the presented pedigree of MarvelÕs Angel. I have found the following information on the name UNDINE. (I have also looked for Ondine, in case of misspelling)Ñ

NOTE 1: The research on Undine is ongoing.

NOTE 2: You will note that several of the registered draft horses listed in this article have two registration numbers Ð one without parentheses and one with parentheses. EXAMPLE: Lagardere II 13173 (19178). The number without parentheses is the respective U.S. breed registry number, which means the horse was imported to the U.S. The number in the parentheses is the respective breed registry in the horseÕs home country where it was bred/foaled, prior to being exported to the U.S. Horses with only registration numbers without parentheses are bred in the U.S. Horses with only numbers in parentheses are still in their respective home country and were not exported.

NOTE 3: At least one other researcher pertaining to Undine information has suggested that since Undine appears to be a female line based name (due to the actual source of the word Undine), that perhaps the MarvelÕs Angel pedigree is incorrect, in that Undine was incorrectly listed as the sire of Prince Undine, and not the dam.



The descendants of Old Painter (pre-registry), Young Painter (pre-registry), and MarvelÕs Angel F4, add many early registered Appaloosa horses (F and early T numbers, as well as ID and PC) carrying draft horse genes- Kentucky Girl F3, Flash F12, Haille F10, Dot F25, Sheba F35, Golden Lady F258, Babe F1, Snowflake F2, Golden Girlie F5, Snowstorm F7, Painter III F8 (leased to Pine Ridge Indian Reservation), Raindrop F9, Sharon F11, Chief F13, Gold Nugget F14, Margo F15,Sheila F6, Blue Bell F82, Beauty II F83, Prince Snowflake F84, Miracle Man F17, El Blanco Indico F11, White Cloud F112, Pawnetta F122, Helado F210, Dixie I F215, Karnak F217, NutonÕs Appalo F489, El Zorro F108, Waneta F156, Indian Princess F207, Spotted Eagle F208, Red Eagle F209, El Cameo F260, Thundercloud F266, Pogehdoka F475, Warcloud F477, Estraleta F478, Loyette F479, Titania F604, Ronnie Rose F2931, Night Flower F259, ShiekÕs Blazes F886, PainterÕs Shiek F884, Nighthawk F1298, American Eagle F1476, SimcoeÕs Secoma F2037,SimcoeÕs Snowy Rock F3800, Red EagleÕs Peacock F1476, PainterÕs Marvel F47, Polka Dot F137, Brown Eagle P F2384, Dunez F1411, Storm Cloud F F1644, SimcoeÕs Kusshi F2993, SimcoeÕs Sacajawea F1515, Mister Blue F2026, FlashÕs Pepper F63, Technicolor F476, Chief 2nd F163, Fire Chief F183, Mowita F420, Dandy Boy F240, Bambi F446, Amapolla F93, Oregon Painter F94, Professor John J F95, Fuji F360, Palousie F26, Princess Beryl F85, SimcoeÕs Chinook F1610, SimcoeÕs Sarcee F1634, SimcoeÕs Koosah F1851, Storm CloudÕs Speck F3159, ThompsonÕs Little Eagle F3521/T682, Nez Perce Warrior F3932, Double Eagle F1340, SimcoeÕs Tye-Byrd F2393, Malibu Chief F2502, Thunder Britches F1261, Eagle Flight F1412, Eaglette F1413, Top O 58 F3622, Dakota Jim F4917, Valentine F1291,Luis Creek Eagle F2924, Eagle Dollar F1536, Puss ID 9027 (dam of Prince Rocky, Bright Cash, Bright Robin, Top Valley, Money CreekÕs Princess Puss, Prince Frank, PrinceÕs Pauper), Silvarr F30, Leopard F24, ChinookÕs Waco F1732, Corky F1201, ThunderÕs Spotted Bull T9238, Susie Q T96, Starlight Sue T123, SimcoeÕs Skeena T8825, SimcoeÕs Skagit T5485, SimcoeÕs Frosty Eagle T2655, Tartan McDannald T1819, Tonca G 3584, and Flash No. 2 T12, Sage King R F2668, and many more.

Many of these horses went on to become an important basis in other notable breeding programs, filtering down through the decades into present time- Lloyd SparksÕ SS program (SimcoeÕs Pataha 8824), Pratt program, Eagle Nest Ranch (ENR), DREA, Ulrich, Minidoka, Kaniksu, 2LK Horse and Cattle Co., A.T. ÒCapÓ McDannald (Spotted Eagle), Martin and Grace ForryÕs Simcoe Stables, John L. BakerÕs Vitriak Hydaway (Red EagleÕs Guild of the 1001), Palmer Wagner, R.E. Hawkins RR Ranch, Bob and Sue Pabst Old Spring Farm, Carey Appaloosa Ranch, D.H. Nord and Sons (also POA breeders), and many others too numerous to list.

Many of the products of the Thompson program have been promoted in the ApHC breed magazines, Appaloosa News and Appaloosa Journal, with hundreds of articles and advertisements, as well as other publications of registries [FAHR, ACBA, ICAA, AAFBI, Sundance, IPAA, CRHA, ApHCC, POA, etc], along with state, regional and national organizations Ð Appaloosa BreederÕs Chronicle, Appaloosa Journal (1960s, Frank Fichte, editor, Arlington, TX), FAHR Tidings, Ara-Appaloosa, Spotted Horse, Appaloosa Racing Record, Appaloosa Sport Horse, The Toby Breeders Association, The Appy, Pacific Coast Hunter Jumper and Stock Horse Association (Mister Blue registered #380, western division), and many others. These horses were promoted for decades, and still are, as examples of the ÔpureÕ Appaloosa or the epitome of the Appaloosa, particularly the foundation bred ones. Innumerable horses with these bloodlines have passed through over 1000 regional, state and/or national sales, over the decades since ThompsonÕs program started.

The Thompson program horses can now join the ranks of many other foundation and early T numbered Appaloosas now proven to carry draft horse breeding, including Sunspot Revel F1904, Tootes V F626, Dominion Cobweb F3924, Whistle Britches F2492, Buttons B F1681, Cooterville Chicken T498, Rocking Chair Sundance F587, A-One F1541, Brave Eagle Rex F4240, Kako Yu Si Nih F319, Rocking Chair Roundup F586, AlÕs Son of Little Man S, Sir Echo F2197, Red Cloud II F190, Dominion White Otter F2800, Thunderbird Sioux ID 1430,CF Grey Dust F4000, Arbuckle Buttons T2818, Elko Traveler F2828, Zebra Dun F1344, Rocking Chair David F585, Red Lady K F4238, Dawn F291, Foxy Lad F655, GrayÕs Princess Pat F656, Dominion Red Hat F3043, Zebra Pal F322, Powder River Red T2792, Swift Sunlight F3842, AlÕs Son of Little Man S F3326, Arickaree F509, Bluebird B F1687, Yellowstone Traveler F1987, B-Two F1625, Jessie F1354, Little Man S F1789, Starbuck Ranger F649, Queen Esther F654, Red Roamer F27, Silver Strike T9423, Durango F1649, Desert Domino F1117, Albemarle Leopard F1395, Tigeress T F1786, KelleyÕs Lucy K T3213, Princess Sugar Foot F3406, Kiamichi Brave T2879, Dominion Spider F3922, Hemene Mox Mox F1501, Freckles Snow Flake F3407, Bois DÕArc T263, Maxie Domino F4568, Apple F621, DominoÕs Worthy F2895, Desert Flower F3405, ShermanÕs Pride F3408, Princess Creek F4567, Leopard Domino F1119, High Thundercloud F1823, Highland Domino F1118, Sugar Girl F4197, Gala RoseÕs Jimbo F1467, High Thunderbird F1822, Leopard Domino II F1397, Wood Chuck F759, June Bug F1258, High Ball F1260, Chief Many Steps F2459, White Squaw R T2457, May Day F1259, Princess May F2716, Mail Day F1968, Scappoose F1341, Cocklebur F1342, Plenty OÕ Spots F3723, Fade Away F425, Ra Sue F2210, Speckle-Back F1558, Spring Away F1934, Atoka L F4285, Silver Leopard 2nd T1554, Navajo Britches F2709, PattiÕs Jubal T1904, Rincon Buck F769, Choya F1951, Dusty Bandino F307, Arapaho Chieftan T99, and scores more.


Sources:
Personal notes, research and information collection of S.A. Byrd
Dee Atkins; personal correspondence re draft horse information, Agent-Shire
Patricia Mefferd ; personal correspondence re lots of information on early Appaloosa programs, bloodlines, etcÉ too numerous to list separately; some items not verifiable to be from this source
Appaloosa Journal, 6-1997 Ð Percherons traded for Ferras; from Pat Mefferd
Appaloosa Journal 5-1998-- Percherons traded for Ferras
The Western Horseman, 12-1987-- Percherons traded for Ferras
Western Livestock Journal, 3-1947 Ð photos of Thompson breeding stock
The Western Horseman 2-1955- Faye Thompson elected Secretary of Arabian Horse Breeders Association of Oregon
Appaloosa News, 2-1960Ñarticle ÒTrail of Old PainterÓ by Walter McPherson
Appaloosa Journal, 5-1988Ñarticle ÒClaude Thompson: Appaloosa ForefatherÓ by Juli S. Thorson
Appaloosa Journal, 6-1997- JuneÕs Mare
Copy of original ApHC application pedigree/photo for Babe F1- possibly from Pat Mefferd (?)
Horseman, 12-1968Ñarticle ÒMister AppaloosaÓ by Lee Ryland
Appaloosa News, 11-1964; re letter from Roberta Melin about Ferras
Bruce Burton, personal correspondence re Agent, Shire; Undine, Saddlebred
The Horse of the Americas, by Bob Denhardt (reference from Pat Mefferd
Horses and Heroes- the Story of the Horse in America for 450 Years, by Frazier Hunt and Robert HuntÑpedigree of Old Painter in chapter ÒThe Golden California HorseÓ
John L. Baker Ð 1990 letters re original ApHC application pedigree of MarvelÕs Angel F4
Copy of original ApHC application pedigree for MarvelÕs Angel- possibly from Pat Mefferd (?)
Faye ThompsonÑ1994 personal letter re Thompson breeding program and CRHA connection(s)
Sundance 500 Newsletter, May/June and July/August 2008Ñarticle ÒIn Search of the Truth-Old Painter (Parts 1A and 1B)Ó , by Pat Mefferd
Percheron Stud Book of America Volumes 19, 20, 21, 22 Ñre Claude Thompson, Atlantic
Percheron Horse Association of America Stud Book Volumes 6,7, 8, 12, 15, 17,18, 19, 22 Ð re Undine, Lady Grace, Casino, and Claude Thompson
Annual Report of the Stallion Registration Board of Oregon Volume 1 (1912); re Claude Thompson and Lancier, Belgian
Annual Report of the Stallion Registration Board of Oregon (1914) Ð Duncan, Lanco and Arabian Boy
Stallion Registration Board of Oregon 1914 Circular Volumes 1-20 Ð re Undine (mongrel)
Sires of the American Thoroughbreds, by The Blood-Horse
www.pedigreequery.com/jockey-club-pedigree-search
California Stallion Registration Board Annual Report 1915 Ð Undine (Percheron)
www.arabdatasource.com Ð re Ferras, Faye Thompson, and Claude Thompson
Appaloosa News, June 1982; article ÒFerrasÓ by Juli S. Thorson
The Arabian Horse News, March 1956- re Flaxie Ferras and FlaxAbu
Names of Half-Arab foals by FerrasÑfrom Pat Mefferd
Arabian Stud Book Volume IX
The Arabian Horse News, August 1951; re Red Eagle F209 in Arab show
www.rootsweb.ancestry.com
Bit and Spur, 5-1949, 2-1949, 6-1949, 11-1949, 9-1949, 12-1949; re Lloyd Silva ads
The Western Horseman, 10-1960; re Lloyd Silva ad
The Arabian Horse News, 4-1956, 12-1956/1-1957, 2-1957, 11-1956; re Lloyd Silva ads
Arabian Horse World, 1-1968, 8-1968, 9-1968; re Lloyd Silva
adspublicfotki.com/hypoint/ arabians ; re photo of Errabi
www.varianarabians.com; re ÒHistory of Bay-AbiÓ, son of Errabi
American Suffolk Horse Stud Book Volume 2 (1911); https:catalog.hathitrust.org
American Hackney Stud Book Volume 3 (1895-1906); https:catalog.hathitrust.org
Shire Horse Stud Book Volume 27 (1906)
Annual Report of the Stallion Registration Board of Oregon, Volume 2, 1913; re Agent, Shire; Undine, Mongrel; C.J. Thompson and Lancier, Belgian
ApHC Stud Book Volume 3
CRHA Stud Book Volume 1 and 2 (combined)
Personal notes from CRHA original handwritten registration records
A World of Pinto Horses, edited by Roxanne Greene
The American Appaloosa Anthology, by Palmer Wagner
All Breed Pedigree Query
Article, ÒFirst AppaloosaÓ by Claude Thompson; no source provided, copy came from Cheryl Palmer 2015
Appaloosa Journal, 4-2001; ÒThe Arabian InfluenceÓ by Michelle Berg; Claude Thompson, Red Eagle, Red EagleÕs Peacock, and trading Percheron mares for Ferras
Appaloosa News 2-1969; article ÒRed Eagle BreederÕs StoryÓ- Thomas Clay 1001 Ranch- pedigree of Red Eagle F-209 (dam of MarvelÕs Angel F-4 listed as ÒLadyÓ)
The Appy 12-1973; article ÒThe Appaloosa ÔHall of FameÕ Ò, by Kay Payne; re Red Eagle Jr F4294
The Appy 11-1973; article ÒThe Appaloosa ÔHall of FameÕ Ò, by Kay Payne; re Red Eagle F209
Copy of Pacific Coast Hunter Jumper and Stock Horse Association recording certificate #380 for Mister Blue F-2026; from Pat Mefferd from Frank Gerhardt
The Legacy of the Nez Perce Spotted Horse, by Charles and Laurelle Cole
Appaloosa Warrior Horse, by Margo Weise
Complete Book of the Appaloosa, by Jan Haddle
Complete Book of the Appaloosa, Revised Edition, by Jan Haddle
French Coach Stud Book of America, Volume 2 (1910); https:catalog.hathitrust.org
American Cleveland Bay Stud Book, Volume 3 (1907); https:catalog.hathitrust.org
Percheron Stud Book of America Volume 12 Part 1; re Undine-mares
Percheron Stud Book of America Volume 8 (1907); re Undine-mares
The Appaloosa, Bill and Dona Richardson
Spotted Pride, Frank Holmes


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This page posted March 10, 2018. Updated March 12, 2018.